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#1 gcbryan

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 05:06 AM

The details as reported, as always, are sketchy and sometimes contradictory.
As reported:

SEATTLE -- A man died Saturday evening while scuba diving with a friend in the water near Alki Point in West Seattle.

Seattle fire department spokeswoman Sue Stangl said two divers were in the water when they were separated by a wave about 8:20 p.m.

One of the divers surfaced, but the other remained underwater.

Someone finally called 911 almost 30 minutes later, and the missing diver was located by Seattle fire department rescue divers in about six feet of water 50 feet from shore.

The diver's regulator was not in his mouth, and he was unconscious and not breathing.

Medics began CPR and rushed the man to Harborview Medical Center where he was pronounced dead.

The man's diving partner told investigators that his friend had about 45 minutes of air left in his tank when they were separated.

"The diver went underneath the water and tried to find his buddy," Stangle said. "After a certain amount of time -- 20 to 30 minutes -- decided that he'd better come to the surface and get help."

Other reports vary slightly including the divers being on a surface swim when a large freighter came by causing a large wave and specificly pointing out that the divers BC was not inflated.

I'm posting this more for the lesson/reminder therefore I'll post what I'm pretty sure actually happened and the lesson to be learned is to inflate your BC before getting into the water unless you are sure it's not appropriate due to some local condition. This is nothing new but since a death occured I'm posting this as the lesson/reminder I gleamed from this story.

This is a fairly benign, shallow site. I believe they had just gotten into the water and were preparing to dive. I believe they were is chest high water, masks off, regulators not in mouth, and in the case of one diver BC not inflated. A large wave created by a passing ship knocked one diver over and since his BC was not inflated he went under and in the surprise inhaled enough water for him to be rendered unconscious. For whatever reason his buddy did not see exactly what happened to him and therefore submerged on scuba to look for him. This was at night/dusk and the viz was probably less than 10'. He looked for his buddy for 20 minutes or so and never found him.

This was bad luck all around as you wouldn't expect this outcome at this location. Without being holier than thou about the whole thing the reminder to be taken from this to me is to make sure your BC is inflated anytime you get into the water in any other than perfect conditions. Someone died under similar conditions at another dive site about a year ago.

Of course the textbook answer is to never get into the water without your mask on, reg in mouth and BC inflated but most of this is just to keep new divers from killing themselves. Exceptions to this are done all the time without these results. I think the best that we can take from this particular situation is to just make sure that your BC is inflated anytime conditions are tricky at all. I can't help but believe that the diver in question also probably wasn't a frequent diver and may have panicked or just experienced extremely bad luck/bad set of circumstances.

Edited by gcbryan, 04 July 2007 - 05:16 AM.


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Posted 04 July 2007 - 07:53 AM

Wow-very tragic news! My thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends!! Thanks for posting!!!
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Posted 04 July 2007 - 01:55 PM

Tough break. So many accidents happen on the surface and in places where divers think that they are safer (when this is actually not the case), causing them to be too casual about their predicaments.
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Posted 04 July 2007 - 03:30 PM

Definitely a bummer. There was an article in one of the major diving mags recently about a very similar diving death. I think it might have been the PADI publication. An instructor and three students got washed of a wall while walking to their dive entry point. The instructor drowned, after which they found that her air wasn't turned on. So, she couldn't inflate her BC after being swept into the water. The students had buoyancy and were rescued.

One thing that always amazes me is the percentage of diving deaths, particularly drownings, that occur while the diver has plenty of gas in their tank. Not a criticism of the divers, just an observation. Kind of makes you wonder if our safety procedures and training overemphasize the "running out of gas" scenarios at the expense of ignoring other hazards.
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#5 gcbryan

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 11:11 PM

We've now heard more from the dive buddy in the incident that started this post. My guess above as to what happened turned out to be exactly what happened.

Two more diver deaths in recent weeks.

One yesterday at Alki Cove 2-rebreather diver solo found with his regulator caught in a buoy chain. Not a lot of details on this one. Was found by an instructor during an OW class. The buoy is one frequently used as a down line. I don't think the chain actually had anything to do the death. I think he died and got caught on the chain as he floated upward but who knows. I'm no expert here (of course) but most rebreather accidents seem to involve passing out due to CO2 build-up or two little or too much oxygen.

The second death involved a local charter and a 24 year old female diver found face down in the water. No details had been available on this one. I just heard from someone tonight who was on the boat and who obviously has followed up on this one. I assume the autopsy has just been done because it was found out that this death was due to an aneurism and the victim just happened to be diving at the time.

Therefore, as is usually the case, there is really nothing to be learned here. Don't have an aneurism and do closely monitor your rebreather.

Hopefully, there won't be any more accidents for a while but I'll let other's post them if they occur. I'm never sure how useful it is to post these things.

Edited by gcbryan, 02 August 2007 - 11:22 PM.


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Posted 02 August 2007 - 11:31 PM

Hopefully, there won't be any more accidents for a while but I'll let other's post them if they occur. I'm never sure how useful it is to post these things.

It's helpful to me. I don't know about others, or if it may bother others excessively, but these are good reminders to me - check those basic details with follow thru.

My reg bud and I have taken to turning our valves all the way on - screw that 1/4 turn back thing. On a recent trip, he turned mine all the way off, which amazed me as he turns screwdrivers every day - but at least I knew it right away, not at 100 ft.

The DM was also checking our valves after that point, turning them 1/4 back. We'd stop at 15-20 feet for a final buddy check and turn them all the way on. Again, a screw up would be evident then, with buddy close by - not at 100 ft or with buddy shooting a pic.

Edited by DandyDon, 02 August 2007 - 11:33 PM.

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Posted 03 August 2007 - 01:49 PM

This was bad luck all around as you wouldn't expect this outcome at this location. Without being holier than thou about the whole thing the reminder to be taken from this to me is to make sure your BC is inflated anytime you get into the water in any other than perfect conditions. Someone died under similar conditions at another dive site about a year ago.

And two years ago Easter weekend not from 3 tree. Thanks for the post. Sad outcome, but important lesson. When my students think they are safe if they avoid deep diving, I softly remind them it only takes inches of water. My thoughts go out to the diver, friends, and family.
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Posted 03 August 2007 - 03:11 PM

This was bad luck all around as you wouldn't expect this outcome at this location. Without being holier than thou about the whole thing the reminder to be taken from this to me is to make sure your BC is inflated anytime you get into the water in any other than perfect conditions. Someone died under similar conditions at another dive site about a year ago.

And two years ago Easter weekend not far from 3 tree. Thanks for the post. Sad outcome, but important lesson. When my students think they are safe if they avoid deep diving, I softly remind them it only takes inches of water. My thoughts go out to the diver, friends, and family.


I was thinking of the one from Sunrise. Too many of these for sure.




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