New TSA rules regarding international travel back to US
#1
Posted 28 December 2009 - 07:02 PM
1) Pat downs both at screening and before boarding the plane
2) Limit of only one carry on bag and no personal item
3) New restriction of having to be seated for the last hour of flight including nothing in your lap such as pillows and laptop computers.
This past year I opted for a domestic vacation rather than one that was international. We are talking about doing the same in 2010.
#2
Posted 28 December 2009 - 07:24 PM
Once again our own government leaps in panic to half-baked restrictions and measures laughably ineffectual, widely annoying and most importantly, not reciprocated by "allies" and "unaligned" regimes alike. Al Qaeda 4** , Freedom 0.
**The 9-11 attackers, the famous Shoe Bomber, the aborted "Shampoo Bombers" of London, and now the aptly named "Knickerbomber".
Just had to get that off my chest.
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#3
Posted 28 December 2009 - 07:50 PM
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#4
Posted 28 December 2009 - 08:11 PM
#1 is true but yet the repeat groping makes no sense at all
#2 is only at London heathrow and is a regression to the restrictions that were put into place after the supposed liquid plot (which has been long sense been mythbusted as implausible despite what TSA says)
#3 this one is captains discretion or nixed completely depending on the airline or article you read. This one astonishes me as it was crazy from the word go. This one got zeroed in on by ADA advocacy groups as such policies are violations of ADA. I mean really what crime you gonna charge them with??? The incident yesterday on the same flight us a perfect example which would you prefer a passenger getting sick in the lav or all over the cabin floor
the airlines sufferred badly this year and because of this hyperactive knee jerk it's gonna get even worse.
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#5
Posted 28 December 2009 - 08:19 PM
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#6
Posted 28 December 2009 - 08:23 PM
What is magical about the last hour of the flight?3) New restriction of having to be seated for the last hour of flight including nothing in your lap such as pillows and laptop computers.
On NBC News tonight they said that on some flights this restriction included books. I read pretty much the entire time when I fly, so what am I supposed to do during that last hour???
#7
Posted 28 December 2009 - 09:05 PM
What is magical about the last hour of the flight?3) New restriction of having to be seated for the last hour of flight including nothing in your lap such as pillows and laptop computers.
On NBC News tonight they said that on some flights this restriction included books. I read pretty much the entire time when I fly, so what am I supposed to do during that last hour???
Well, the reasoning was that the suicide bomber was trying to detonate his bomb during the last hour of flight when the plane was over US soil.
There are options that could be taken but DHS seems to be reluctant to do that because of fears of discrimination and invasion of privacy. So we have to deal with these things which appear on the surface to do very little.
#8
Posted 28 December 2009 - 10:02 PM
TSA screeners are just like their pre-9/11 predecessors--they're standing around underpaid and undertrained, joking and going through the motions. If somebody really wanted to bring down a plane in the US and they had half a brain, they'd do it. Beyond a certain point in the whole security envelope, you pays your money and you takes your chances.
Pretty soon the morons at TSA will have us boarding planes naked and they'll be making us ground ship our baggage.
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#9
Posted 28 December 2009 - 10:05 PM
If the US really wanted to do something RIGHT, use this as an example to gut the TSA and implement the Israeli model of airline security. It’s pretty amazing that NO AIRLINE PLANE has ever been hi-jacked or terrorized going to or coming from Israel. What is their magic formula? They talk to passengers and the PROFILE!
It is clear that the feel-gooders are tearing the western world apart!
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#10
Posted 28 December 2009 - 11:28 PM
Did I ever write here about a my experiences at Houston whilst on my way from UK to Belize, a year or two after 9/11? I was body searched 8 times during the boarding process for the Belize flight, and each was so sloppy I'm sure that if I had had a ceramic knife strapped to my midriff it would not have been found. I almost said something at the time - almost, that is, I'm not totally stupid!
#11
Posted 29 December 2009 - 07:10 AM
Stop trying to confuse the situation with logic.
Thanks or the sweet tweak, Lynn. I'm considerably calmer this morning (until my third cup 'o' joe, anyway...).
I look forward to meeting you and others in Belize soon! To paraphrase Admiral Farragut, "Dang the long lines and pat-downs, full speed ahead!" (My patented torpedo dodging dance!)
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"My secret to maintaining this goofy façade? It ain't no façade." - Brad, the
"I don't make up jokes; I just observe Congress and report the facts." - Will Rogers
#12
Posted 29 December 2009 - 10:23 AM
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 12:03 PM
I'm reduced to one rucksack on my back carrying a laptop, camera, couple changes of clothing and my medical records and prescription drugs from my hospitalization here--including crutches, xrays and letters from the local hospital detailing that I really DO have metal screws and whatnot embedded in my broken ankle to aid in healing now.
Not worried about the local Aussie authority--but the insanity that is TSA gives me considerable pause as I try to get home. Some of the drugs are self-administered in pre-filled ampule form, so I don't know if TSA will allow them on the aircraft or not with my Aussie letters for the final leg of my journey.
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#14
Posted 29 December 2009 - 12:29 PM
What worries me about all these knee-jerk policies the TSA implements is that there is a segment of the American population that actually thinks these policies are making air travel safer. As well-informed, seasoned travelers we know better. However, think about all the stupid things you see people do at airports and on airplanes. I'm afraid that we may be in the minority . . .
Welcome to Security Theatre.
Edited by Mermaid Lady, 29 December 2009 - 12:35 PM.
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#15
Posted 29 December 2009 - 12:32 PM
These guys have never to my knowledge, ever stopped a terrorist attack.
Every time that we adopt more restrictive travel policies, every time that we enact more and more ridiculous rules, and every time that we give up more freedoms in the name of security, the terrorists win.
(Moderators, if this is too political, please say so and I will be happy to delete this post. Sorry I just had to get this out of my system)
Teresa,
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