Hi all,
I just wanted to pipe in for a second on this conversation about being "high maintenance" and in particular about being "ugly." Truth be told, even from the most superficial standards, I know very few physically ugly people. I know dozens of people with attitude problems (to me this is high maintenance) and once I identify them I keep my distance. I think the majority of people do this. I don't care how attractive you are, man or woman, I won't waste my time if you have an intolerable personality. No one is allowed to be rude.
Also, the comment about "when did skinny as a rail become a bad thing?" I think it became trouble when people began to have warped perceptions about themselves that led to eating disorders and other health problems. I work on a campus where approximately 12% of the female population and 2% of the male population suffer from eating disorders It's really heartbreaking to watch a smart, young, vibrant college students place their entire self worth in the number that pops up on the scale.
And finally, in terms of "high maintenance" meaning having a lengthy beauty routine, I own up to it and I'm proud of it, lol. I dye, straighten, exfoliate, polish, wax, thread, laser, and sweat at the gym as often as I can. I feel good when I look good and make absolutely no apologies! I assure you, if I'm ever finally able to join you all on a trip I'll wake up early enough to make sure it won't interfere with the day's activities.
I'm going to let you in on a man secret: What you women refer to as high maintenance, men call attractive. What you women call independant, men think of unattractive with 6 cats, hairy legs and a bookshelf full of romance novels....Yes there are exceptions but they are rare. When my mom told me in third grade that the if the girls didnt like me, then they were not worth it....what she should have said was, comb your hair, bath more often, and quit picking your nose....it didn't help that I was an ugly child either...
some times the truth hurts....do you know why you very seldom will find a snoooty, unattractive, chubby single woman???? It's because they can't get away with what the high maintenance women can...They have to be nice, this is why we as a society resent the opportunities giving to the attractive classs....at least us uglies can think we have great personalities....
That's just messed up....
my shrink agreed with you, so I got another shrink....