21 replies to this topic

[Jerrymxz]

We had Lionfish in Grand Cayman this year. they were very well prepaired!! YUM!

[grim reefer]

I've never tried it, but I certainly would like to. I haven't been on one but I know DIscover Divers in Beaufort runs charters with the sole purpose of spearing lion fish. Sounds like an ideal recreational dive to me

[WreckWench]

I've never tried it, but I certainly would like to. I haven't been on one but I know DIscover Divers in Beaufort runs charters with the sole purpose of spearing lion fish. Sounds like an ideal recreational dive to me

OFF TOPIC:

Do other NC operators allow hunting of Lionfish that you are aware of?

[grim reefer]

Discovery is the only one I know of that has charters dedicated to lion fish harvesting. All of them that allow spear fishing should allow spearing lion fish.

[sharkCrazy]

The most commonly reported marine toxin disease in the world is Ciguatera, associated with consumption of contaminated reef fish such as barracuda, grouper, and snapper. Under-diagnosis and under-reporting (especially in endemic areas such as the Caribbean) make it difficult to know the true worldwide incidence of the Marine Toxin Diseases. At least 50,000 people per year who live in or visit tropical and subtropical areas suffer from Ciguatera worldwide. For example, CDC and others estimate that only 2-10% of Ciguatera cases are actually reported in the United States. In the US Virgin Islands, there are an estimated 300 cases per 10,000 or 3% of the population per year; a similar rate is found in the French West Indies. In St. Thomas, a household survey estimated that 4.4% of all households suffered from Ciguatera annually (at least 2640 persons per year or an annual incidence of 600 cases per year); in Puerto Rico, 7% of the residents have experienced at least one episode of Ciguatera in their lifetime

[lv2dive70]

On my last liveaboard trip, they didn't let the guests spear lionfish (so there were no "LionFish Hunters" reminiscent of Kamala in Mayaguana 2010! :-) ) but on a dawn dive, the staff did. I was diving with Captain, a bit deeper than the rest of the group, so I played spotter. My first experience eating lionfish was breakfast just moments after we got we back on the boat. There was something to be said about eating something that fresh that I had a part in catching!

[Hipshot]

Lionfish is a secondary or tertiary consumer, so ciguaterra toxin would be biomagnified in its tissues. It might be a good idea to avoid eating lionfish in an area where ciguaterra has been known to be a problem.

Rick



I was born to rock the boat
Some may sink but we will float
Grab your coat - let's get out of here
You're my witness
I'm your mutineer--Warren Zevon

From my Undercurrent magazine received yesterday:

A New Lionfish Hazard to Worry About

For a couple of years, conservationists have been saying that one way to reduce the population of the destructive renegade lionfish on Caribbean reefs is to spear it and eat it. Maybe not. Conservationists in St. Maarten are warning islanders not to eat lionfish after November tests found a naturally-occurring toxin in its flesh. Those findings deal a blow to the island’s efforts to contain the spread of the venomous predator. Following the lead of other Caribbean islands, St. Maarten had hoped to promote the species as batterfried or grilled entrees to slow their spread. But Tadzio Bervoets, chief of St. Maarten’s Nature Foundation, said nearly half the football-sized lionfish captured in local waters were found to have a biotoxin that can lead to ciguatera poisoning, which has serious symptoms. Ciguatera poisoning is caused by eating some subtropical and tropical fish predators, including grouper, snapper and barracuda, which live by reefs and accumulate the toxin in their flesh from eating smaller fish that graze on poisonous algae. Human symptoms are abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea, tingling and numbness. Most patients recover in a few days. Some never recover. The worst-case scenarios are paralysis or death. No one has become sick from eating lionfish in St. Maarten, but more than a dozen cases of ciguatera poisoning are reported each year from people eating barracuda and jacks. St. Maarten’s waters have long suffered from high levels of ciguatoxin, so Bervoets said the test results on lionfish were not a complete surprise. Nonetheless, “this means that we cannot safely promote lionfish as an edible species” in St. Maarten. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration have had no official reports of illness associated with the consumption of lionfish. “But in endemic areas of ciguatera, toxins have been detected at levels exceeding FDA guidance, and could cause illness if consumed,” said FDA spokesman Douglas Karas. “The Virgin Islands is one of those areas.” In recent months, the U.S. agency has collected more than 186 lionfish from the waters around the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico. Of these, scientists have tested 74 fish to date, with 26 percent confirmed to contain ciguatoxins at levels exceeding FDA guidance. William Coles, chief of environmental education with the U.S. Virgin Islands Division of Fish and Wildlife, said fishermen there know well where ciguatoxins accumulate, and avoid catching fish in those areas. “So we have about the same level of concern with lionfish that we do with any other fish, but it’s still a major concern.” Across the Caribbean, it remains to be seen exactly how much impact fishing and marketing of lionfish can have. For now, it’s the only hope in sight. “They are definitely multiplying,” said Bervoets. “That’s why it’s such a shame we can’t eat them here.”