It now transpires the Captain was found in a lifeboat very early on and ordered back on the ship by Coastguard officers. Despite that, he boarded another lifeboat and was later found on land where he was arrested. This was during the early stages of the evacuation. What can one say about a man like this? My main question is how on earth he ever came to be appointed.
Cruise ship aground
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:08 AM
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:38 AM
Dramatic footage of searchers blowing a hole in the side of the ship, but be sure to read the article as well. Pretty nasty stuff coming down the line, and all aimed squarely at the Captain.
Blowout!
In a 'breaking update', five more bodies allegedly recovered.
Recovery story.
Blowout!
In a 'breaking update', five more bodies allegedly recovered.
Recovery story.
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 03:30 PM
What can one say about a man like this? My main question is how on earth he ever came to be appointed.
You never know the true medal of a person until you have a situation like this.
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:15 AM
It now transpires the Captain was found in a lifeboat very early on and ordered back on the ship by Coastguard officers. Despite that, he boarded another lifeboat and was later found on land where he was arrested. This was during the early stages of the evacuation. What can one say about a man like this? My main question is how on earth he ever came to be appointed.
When I first started cruising with Princess cruise lines, they had British captains and Italian chefs. Always seemed to be a great combination. Not sure I want the situation reversed
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:16 AM
Apparently Carnival has up to $3billion in insurance. Latest estimates is for $800Million hit, the largest marine claim ever, exceeding the Exxon Valdez.
http://www.denverpos...5676?source=pop
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:31 AM
It now transpires the Captain was found in a lifeboat very early on and ordered back on the ship by Coastguard officers. Despite that, he boarded another lifeboat and was later found on land where he was arrested. This was during the early stages of the evacuation. What can one say about a man like this? My main question is how on earth he ever came to be appointed.
When I first started cruising with Princess cruise lines, they had British captains and Italian chefs. Always seemed to be a great combination. Not sure I want the situation reversed
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:01 AM
http://news.yahoo.co...-214401476.html
Looks like the question will be up to the insurance company whether the ship is salvageable or not.
Looks like the question will be up to the insurance company whether the ship is salvageable or not.
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:04 AM
http://news.yahoo.co...-214401476.html
Looks like the question will be up to the insurance company whether the ship is salvageable or not.
I guess that will depend on how may more holes they blow in the hull. And yes I do understand why the holes are there.
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 11:50 AM
I always used to think that "salvage" meant "retrieve, repair and refloat". I then read of ships in Scapa Flow being salvaged for their pre-nuclear age steel, and that was retrieved without bringing the whole ships up (which would in any case have been well-nigh impossible). Does anyone know the strict meaning of the word, both now and originally?
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:02 PM
I always used to think that "salvage" meant "retrieve, repair and refloat". I then read of ships in Scapa Flow being salvaged for their pre-nuclear age steel, and that was retrieved without bringing the whole ships up (which would in any case have been well-nigh impossible). Does anyone know the strict meaning of the word, both now and originally?
Not qualified to speak of the history of the word but I always thought 'to salvage' meant to save whatever you can of the ship and its cargo from the perils of the seas. I take it that this would include saving the whole ship when economically feasible or when required because the wreckage presents a hazard to navigation.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 08:10 AM
To salvage would be to recover any materials or cargo of worth. Sometimes that can be the entire vessel, but usually just the cargo.
I would point you to the tale of Risdon Beazley for a ripping good story. He is the most famous salvor you have never heard of. Much of what he did is still classified today. If you can find a copy read Risdon Beazley: Marine Salvor.
I would point you to the tale of Risdon Beazley for a ripping good story. He is the most famous salvor you have never heard of. Much of what he did is still classified today. If you can find a copy read Risdon Beazley: Marine Salvor.
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 10:57 AM
Interesting to read (http://www.telegraph...hip-safety.html) that my feelings that the hull design was deficient were perhaps well founded. Apparently it has been recognised for many years that a ship with so much heavy superstructure is prone to capsizing given quite a small impetus. Further confirms my lack of desire ever to go on one of these things.
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