Reel pin/screw rusted up
#1
Posted 29 March 2006 - 05:33 PM
What are my options to get the rusted pin/screw out and then what are my options to make it work again? Am I going to need to pull out my hacksaw? I do have one (*thanks Dad*).
* the wingnut shall remain nameless as I may inadvertently incriminate myself...
FYI - I now make sure when I buy reels that the pin/screw is plastic to avoid the rusting. Is there any drawback to selecting a plastic pin/screw over a metal one? Also, is it a pin or a screw!!???
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#2
Posted 29 March 2006 - 07:07 PM
If you don't have the tools let me know.
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#3
Posted 29 March 2006 - 07:20 PM
Gee, I hate it when that happens... Well, I have an assortment of penetrating lubricants ranging from Corrosion X (red) to WD 40. I like WD-40 least, but if you have it around, try it. LPS has some good penetrating oils probably available at your home improvement store or a Graingers. I believe LPS3 is the one for this, but I may be remembering incorrectly.
Spray your penetrating oil liberally on the pin/screw (probably it's a screw) or soak the area if you can. If spraying it, repeat whenever you think about it for a couple days if you're not in a hurry. Is the reel metal? Loaded with line? After letting the penetrating oil "penetrate", begin to "work" the rusted pin/screw, possibly using pliers if you need a bit more leverage. Since I am not exactly sure what you have, I can't tell you much on how hard to work it back and forth. If you have to cut it off, you can then drill it out and re-tap the hole for a new screw (I'm assuming this is the "set" screw stopping the reel from turning? If this doesn't make sense to you, post a pic or tell us what kind of reel it is and one of us may be able to provide more help.
Plastic doesn't corrode but can break or strip more easily. Metal will bend or corrode (especially if it's not stainless). A dissimilar metal in a metal reel will be a victim of corrosion of the reel or the screw, depending on the materials. Depending on the need for the reel, a spool is alot simpler and has no moving parts, just a double-ender. Being a 50 footer, I highly recommend a one piece delrin spool with double ender. They are simple to use and hard to screw up.
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#4
Posted 29 March 2006 - 10:48 PM
What are my options to get the rusted pin/screw out and then what are my options to make it wors again? Am I going to need to pull out my hacksaw? I do have one (*thanks Dad*).
Another option is an ultra sonic cleaner.
I perfer metal and make sure it's marine grade S/S(all metals come in a varity of grades with different properties).If it is the hold down screw some manufactures offer the option of whats known as a cold water screw(designed for use with gloves)
#5
Posted 29 March 2006 - 11:13 PM
if that doesnt work, you can always use the drill and tap..............
#6
Posted 30 March 2006 - 02:16 PM
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#7
Posted 30 March 2006 - 02:57 PM
hmmm....Dad and I need to take a trip to Home Depot! I don't have a heating torch or impact driver!If it won't damage the reel, a heating torch and impact driver will take it out.
Are you sure a hacksaw and tap wouldn't work?
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#8
Posted 30 March 2006 - 03:06 PM
Make sure to lubricate the screw occasionally so that this doesn't happen again to you. Yes, another bit a gear maintenance to add to the list.
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#9
Posted 30 March 2006 - 03:27 PM
OK, what kind of lubicrant do I use on the screw?Make sure to lubricate the screw occasionally so that this doesn't happen again to you. Yes, another bit a gear maintenance to add to the list.
[serious question - but sustaining childish laughter...]
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#10
Posted 30 March 2006 - 03:30 PM
OK, what kind of lubicrant do I use on the screw?Make sure to lubricate the screw occasionally so that this doesn't happen again to you. Yes, another bit a gear maintenance to add to the list.
[serious question - but sustaining childish laughter...]
I have had pretty good luck with zipper wax.
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#11
Posted 30 March 2006 - 03:35 PM
Once in a while, it is good to step back, take a breath, and remember to be humble. You'll never know it all - ScubaDadMiami. If you aren't afraid of dying, there is nothing you can't achieve - Lao-tzu. One dog barks at something, the rest bark at him - Chinese Proverb.
#12
Posted 30 March 2006 - 07:17 PM
#13
Posted 30 March 2006 - 07:56 PM
hmmm....Dad and I need to take a trip to Home Depot! I don't have a heating torch or impact driver!If it won't damage the reel, a heating torch and impact driver will take it out.
Are you sure a hacksaw and tap wouldn't work?
the hacksaw would be useful only to cut the thumb end off the set screw. It is unlikely you will want to do this yet. Only if you are unable to loosen the screw will you want to cut it off, making the cut squarely across the screw. Then take a center punch and make an indentation in the sawed off end of the screw so you can drill down through the screw inside its hole without the bit wandering off course and damaging the other surface. Then use a drill bit the size of the screw or a wee bit smaller to drill the rest of the screw out. Use the penetrating oil on this as you drill, and chances are that as soon as you get it mostly drilled through, the remnants of the screw will come loose in its hole. The oil will also lubricate the bit as it cuts. Then use a tap to "re-thread" the hole for your replacement screw. My DR reels came with extra screws... don't know about yours. BTW, you will probably want to see if you can remove the spool before doing this. Also, if you can remove any plastic, you might be able to heat the metal surrounding the screw enough to assist in loosening it before you cut it. Don't cut it if you intend to still try to turn it out of it's hole. You will need what ever is there to grab onto to turn it. Buenos suerte!
Actually, the WORST day of diving is better than the BEST day at work...
and... my life is not measured by the number of breaths I take, but by the number of breaths I take UNDER WATER
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#14
Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:22 PM
Once in a while, it is good to step back, take a breath, and remember to be humble. You'll never know it all - ScubaDadMiami. If you aren't afraid of dying, there is nothing you can't achieve - Lao-tzu. One dog barks at something, the rest bark at him - Chinese Proverb.
#15
Posted 30 March 2006 - 09:14 PM
SDM suggests you use zipper wax. i'm sure you have plenty of experiance with that product
but seriously, a 50' reel.
my suggestion is to get the line off it, and put it on a spool.
you'll never have to worry about your screwing getting rusty due to lack of use. lol
or from some wingnut leaving it in a bucket with differing metals.
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