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#46 SquattingRadishDM

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 05:51 PM

Sorry to resurrect and old post, was just reading up and found an answer to this...

I hope somebody posting in this thread can expand on why Hot Water showers and diving can cause DSC.


from The Decompression Matrix ~ Dr Bob Cole

"The solubility of nitrogen within the human body is affected by temperature. If the temperature is increased then tissue gas tensions will rise. On the surface, at the end of a dive the diver is supersaturated with nitrogen and providing this supersaturation is within the design temperature constraints of the decompression model all should be well.

However, if the skin temperature is allowed to rise significantly by say, the diver taking a hot shower/bath or sun bathing then tissue tolerance to gas tension may be compromised and free-gas can form. Hence a normally safe dive can become problematic."


I'll have to read up on my Deco theory again on this one...I think "gas tension" is a measure of the concentration of a dissolved gas. So as the skin increases in temperature during sunbathing or a shower, the concentration of dissolved gas in the tissue also increases, possibly beyond the point that it can be transferred into the blood stream safely.

Another factor is that the blood flow to a tissue can affect the efficiency that it can off-gas, the more blood thats flowing to a tissue the safer the nitrogen elimination. So an increase in skin temperature can lead to blood getting diverted away from other tissues and make them less efficient at off-gasing. Conversely when you are cold, blood will be diverted away from the skin to the body core to conserve heat, making it less efficient at off-gassing and possibly lead to a skin bend.

So I guess its best to make sure you stay warm after getting out of the water... but not too warm :thankyou: The Goldilocks mentality - not too hot, not too cold... just right :cool1:
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#47 netmage

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 11:25 PM

Sorry to resurrect and old post, was just reading up and found an answer to this...

I hope somebody posting in this thread can expand on why Hot Water showers and diving can cause DSC.


from The Decompression Matrix ~ Dr Bob Cole

"The solubility of nitrogen within the human body is affected by temperature. If the temperature is increased then tissue gas tensions will rise. On the surface, at the end of a dive the diver is supersaturated with nitrogen and providing this supersaturation is within the design temperature constraints of the decompression model all should be well.

However, if the skin temperature is allowed to rise significantly by say, the diver taking a hot shower/bath or sun bathing then tissue tolerance to gas tension may be compromised and free-gas can form. Hence a normally safe dive can become problematic."


I'll have to read up on my Deco theory again on this one...I think "gas tension" is a measure of the concentration of a dissolved gas. So as the skin increases in temperature during sunbathing or a shower, the concentration of dissolved gas in the tissue also increases, possibly beyond the point that it can be transferred into the blood stream safely.

Another factor is that the blood flow to a tissue can affect the efficiency that it can off-gas, the more blood thats flowing to a tissue the safer the nitrogen elimination. So an increase in skin temperature can lead to blood getting diverted away from other tissues and make them less efficient at off-gasing. Conversely when you are cold, blood will be diverted away from the skin to the body core to conserve heat, making it less efficient at off-gassing and possibly lead to a skin bend.

So I guess its best to make sure you stay warm after getting out of the water... but not too warm :thankyou: The Goldilocks mentality - not too hot, not too cold... just right :cool1:


Gas Tension is more a measurement, or rather the abstract concept of measuring the relationship of the gas between a disolved and gasous state...
Ideal gas laws tell us that, all things being equal, an increase in temperature will have a direct effect on forcing gas from a disolved state to gasous, potentally at a rate faster than the lungs can filter, or in the case of a skin hit, faster than the tissues can transport into the bloodstream.
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#48 Bubble2Bubble

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 09:01 PM

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Sorry to resurrect and old post

PLZ dont be sorry because we all are very Thankful :respect:

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#49 Dive_Girl

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 11:38 AM

SquattingRadishDM

Sorry to resurrect and old post

PLZ dont be sorry because we all are very Thankful :cool1:

netmage
You hit a home run as well TY TY.

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:D and again why I am so happy to see SquattingRadishDM back! :lmao:
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