BUDDYS ARE IMPORTANT
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Posted 12 May 2008 - 08:04 PM
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Posted 12 May 2008 - 08:52 PM
#18
Posted 12 May 2008 - 10:13 PM
Let's not bash here folks. Whether Solo, Buddy team, DIR, whatever, its all good. If it does not work for you then there are many options to make you happy. At the end of the day we all suck down compressed O2 (or at least a percentage of it ) and want to have a good time doing it.
Well said Simon!
#19
Posted 12 May 2008 - 11:45 PM
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Posted 13 May 2008 - 05:02 AM
#21
Posted 13 May 2008 - 06:36 AM
I have to ask myself, did his buddy have an issue and this was not mentioned in the post?????
Well he "assumed" his buddy was following, I always put the buddy with less experience in front where I can see them or right along side me.
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#22
Posted 13 May 2008 - 07:30 AM
There really is no correct place to always put the inexperienced buddy. If you put them in front then they can take off quickly and you have to catch them. If they are trailing then they can't keep up if they are on the side then they can tend to wander off further to the side. Its all a matter of practice and a learning curve. DIR works for those that practice it. Not everyone want s to be that rigid in their diving. There are other missions to follow vis a vie photographers like to solo if for no other reason than not having their buddy scare away what they are trying to take a picture of.I have to ask myself, did his buddy have an issue and this was not mentioned in the post?????
Well he "assumed" his buddy was following, I always put the buddy with less experience in front where I can see them or right along side me.
#23
Posted 13 May 2008 - 01:38 PM
I wanted to share my experience with a buddy I had while in training for AOW....
We were to follow a horizontal rope line across Lake Whitney....It was cloudy...the kinda clarity 5 fingers in yur mask couldn't see...clarity... I manuvered over the line and thought my buddy was following...my leg wrapped around the line...and I was next to a vertical bouy line...that was 30 feet up to the surface......I tried to cut the line...but couldnt get untangled...my regulator was fouled..and I managed to get my octo...no buddy!!...afetr a 360 spin...I managed to pull myself to the surface...and inflated my BC to Max...as the line was still wrapped around my ankle...attempting to pull me down...The instructor came back....after about 5 min...and cut me loose....I went to shore and after cussing the buddy off...I left...I felt my buddy wasnt...so now I get to know my buddy before a dive...and their equipment...as well as training...
Well I would say your first mistake was assuming your buddy was following. At any point did you turn to verify this? Poor vis requires much more than a casual buddy dive, it needs to be planned for. While you are cussing out your buddy say a few for yourself for leaving him/her. It takes two people to seperate. You may well have left your buddy hanging when they had an issue and then got in trouble yourself later on.
As you learned, entanglements are probably the worst thing that can happen to a solo diver. It just is not always possible to cut yourself free. Whether on purpose or inadverdantly, when solo diving the best advice I can give on getting out of entanglements is not to get tangled in the first place. Not much help I know.
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Solo diving is not nonsense, and neither is DIR. Of course neither of those methodologies is the be all end all to diving either. One the epitomy of self reliance, the other team work. Both require training, skill, experience, and attention to detail in order to work successfully.
There are extreme opinions on both sides, and both make some excellent points. However if you are firmly entrenched in one camp or the other, then I feel you lack the vision to be a well rounded diver. No one philosophy fits every situation.
I can be an attentive buddy even when working the camera. If you need me to be there for you I am. OTH I can also be confident and content to be 100% solo if the conditions are within my training and limits.
I personally try to use my training and experience to adapt to whatever the situation demands. To me that is diving, as well as living.
When I first learned of the DIR concept, I thought what a bunch of maroons. Here are all these egotists putting down everything that isn't DIR, and they lack the forethought and imagination to research and purchase their own gear and put it together by themselves. Everybody has to 100% the same.
I was wrong. I have further researched the DIR concept and found many great ideas that I employ in my own diving. I also found many DIR divers to be anything but the robots I first thought them to be.
My point? Never dismiss something out of hand, just because it goes against what you have learned or experienced in life so far doesn't make it worthless or "nonsense".
An open mind grows fat with possibility.
Or your brains can fall out, take your pic!
Edited by ScubaDrew, 13 May 2008 - 01:39 PM.
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Posted 13 May 2008 - 02:56 PM
#25
Posted 13 May 2008 - 04:18 PM
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#26
Posted 13 May 2008 - 08:26 PM
My point being you can do it both ways. That and I'd rather dive solo than with a bad (bad as in poor attitude/selfish behavior, not inexperienced) diver. With a GUE/DIR buddy, there is a much higher level of confidence in their ability and a much higher expectation that they will be there to bail you out. I would never rely on an istabuddy to bail me out.
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