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#1 jextract

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Posted 30 July 2004 - 05:40 PM

Science - AP

Shark Repellent Deemed a Breakthrough

By IAN JAMES, Associated Press Writer

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico - Excited by the scent of blood, a dozen sharks dart about in a frenzy as a researcher dips a pole in the sea and squirts out a clear, yellowish substance. Within seconds, the sharks jerk their snouts away and vanish.

Researchers say they finally have found a potent repellent to drive away sharks, after testing off Bimini island in the Bahamas. It's a goal that's eluded scientists for decades.

If proven effective, the repellent one day might protect divers, surfers and swimmers. But researchers say that would require much more study. First they hope it can protect sharks — in decline worldwide due to overfishing — by reducing the numbers caught needlessly by long-line commercial fishermen.

"You introduce this chemical, and they all leave," said lead researcher Eric Stroud, a 30-year-old chemical engineer from Oak Ridge, N.J. "It works very, very well."

The repellent, called A-2 because it was the second recipe tried, is derived from extracts of dead sharks that Stroud gathered at New Jersey fish markets and piers. Fishermen and scientists have long noted sharks stay away if they smell a dead shark.

"We have something that really works, but research remains," said Samuel Gruber, a University of Miami marine biologist and shark expert who is helping conduct tests at the Bimini Biological Field Station.

Tests have found the repellent effective on four species: the Caribbean reef, blacknose, nurse and lemon sharks. Studies are needed on other species such as the great white, mako and oceanic whitetip.

Gruber said the repellent seems to carry a chemical messenger that triggers a flight reaction. He said more studies are needed to pinpoint the active molecule among a dozen or so.

A dose of 4 fluid ounces is enough to scare away feeding sharks, Stroud said, keeping them away from a fish head for two hours with just a few drops per minute. In contrast, sharks didn't respond to a red dye in control tests.

The researchers presented their work in May during a meeting of the American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists in Norman, Okla. Films of their tests captured images of sharks splashing the surface as they turn to flee.

They hope to make a slow-dissolving repellent for use in baits and fishing nets, and to guard equipment on submarines and oil exploration vessels that sharks have damaged in the past.

The repellent, though nontoxic, is apparently so disagreeable to sharks it can revive them from semiconsciousness. Some species slip into a hypnotic state if turned belly-up, and tests found the repellent brought captive sharks out of that trance.

Repellent research began in World War II, when the U.S. Navy (news - web sites) created "Shark Chaser" for sailors and downed pilots. Mixed with black dye, it was made of copper acetate, which scientists thought would smell like a rotting shark. Studies later showed it wasn't that effective.

A promising find came in 1972, when University of Maryland shark expert Eugenie Clark discovered that a Red Sea fish, the Moses sole, secreted a milky substance that repelled sharks.

The finding caused a stir, and soon the makers of Coppertone suntan lotion contacted Clark, hoping to market it. She said she discouraged them, saying initial research couldn't back up such a use.

Years of study followed by Gruber and others. In the end, though, the repellent derived from the sole wasn't practical because it had to be squirted into a shark's mouth to be effective.

Clark — who at 82 still works at Mote Marine Laboratory in Sarasota, Fla. — said the latest findings could be a welcome way to reduce accidental killing of sharks, though she is skeptical of human use, saying few would be carrying the repellent at the rare moment it's needed.

"I'd be happy to see somebody work it out, but I don't see it as a practical solution," she said.

Anti-shark items on the market now include cages, steel mesh suits and a device called the Shark Shield, which when worn by divers or surfers emits an electric field. The device's Australian maker acknowledges it can't guarantee total effectiveness.

In most cases, the danger of attack is extremely slight. The International Shark Attack File, at the Florida Museum of Natural History, recorded 55 unprovoked attacks worldwide last year, including four deaths.

Stroud got the idea to pursue a repellent after several 2001 shark attacks drew widespread attention, including one that nearly killed an 8-year-old boy near Pensacola, Fla.

Stroud and engineer Mike Herrmann do lab work in a New Jersey warehouse, relying on donations of less than $500,000 from two private benefactors.

They have a patent pending and are starting a company, Shark Defense Inc., to eventually market the repellent.

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Posted 30 July 2004 - 05:46 PM

How does it affect other fish? I enjoy diving with sharks in most cases so I doubt I would use it myself.

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Posted 30 July 2004 - 05:57 PM

Hi Jex,
Did you read or they say anything about potential enviromental hazzards? Abet a single dose they wrote of

A dose of 4 fluid ounces is enough to scare away feeding sharks, Stroud said, keeping them away from a fish head for two hours with just a few drops per minute.

doesn't sound bad. However, times that by the thousands that would potentially use it in our oceans might cause a problem if it is a hazzard to other marine life.
Thanks for the info.
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Posted 30 July 2004 - 05:58 PM

Sorry, all, I posted the story right as it appears. Where's Papi when you need him?
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Posted 30 July 2004 - 06:17 PM

No apologies necessary bro. Again thanks for the info. I keep checking on it too.
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Posted 30 July 2004 - 07:43 PM

ok, i kept waiting for the punchline....

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Posted 30 July 2004 - 09:41 PM

Why do you ask two dogs f**king?

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Posted 31 July 2004 - 08:17 AM

We need to sneak A2 into the bottom paint of fishing boats! :lmao:
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Posted 31 July 2004 - 10:49 AM

Why do you ask two dogs f**king?

ok, that was kinda over MY head......??????????

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Posted 31 July 2004 - 11:07 AM

Why do you ask two dogs f**king?

ok, that was kinda over MY head......??????????

It's the punch line. do you want the joke too?

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Posted 31 July 2004 - 11:17 AM

A young indian says to his father. "Father why is my brother named Soaring Eagle?" The father says "After your brother was born I left the teepee and saw an eagle soaring. Oh said the indian "Why is my sister called Running Wolf?" The father replied "After your sisters birth when I left the teepee I saw a running wolf, Why do you ask two dogs f**king?"

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Posted 31 July 2004 - 01:22 PM

Old but still fits in with my low brow sense of humor.



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Posted 31 July 2004 - 02:10 PM

Why do you ask two dogs f**king?

ok, that was kinda over MY head......??????????


Bad sign, very bad sign. If it's over Trigger's head, you should be ashamed.

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Posted 31 July 2004 - 03:25 PM

ah. thanks china.

never mind what i thought. i have a cold so my brains are more scrambled than usual.

btw...i love the joke, too!

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Posted 31 July 2004 - 06:29 PM

The repellent, called A-2 because it was the second recipe tried, is derived from extracts of dead sharks that Stroud gathered at New Jersey fish markets and piers. Fishermen and scientists have long noted sharks stay away if they smell a dead shark.

I would think the smell of a dead shark at the NJ Fishmarket would repel probaby anything or anyone, well maybe except the NJ Fishermen. :welcome:

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