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#1 Senior Tech

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Posted 30 January 2005 - 01:40 PM

Note: This technique is a generic rinse procedure with a few tweaks to deal with some of today's first stages. In particular the seal type of first stage such as Zeagle, Apeks, etc. do not require the syringe portion of the rinse procedure. The key feature to the 'Bag Trick' is the fact that you are aggressively pressure rinsing accessible portions of the regulator before any of the components of water, salt or fresh, have time to solidify. (Soaking in a tub is very much like putting another lock on the barn door after the horses are gone.)

Unfortunately the way most of us were taught about the conditions of matter was that it went from gas to liquid to solid (and for those that know about this a fourth condition is plasma but we won't be dealing with plasma). In many dive courses the implication was that salt water was just fresh water with salt disolved in it. That implied that when the salt became a solid you could return all of it back to a liquid by soaking it. Unfortunately it doesn't quite work that way. Salt water not only contains salt it contains everything else including minerals that when solidified do not reverse back to a liquid with soaking. An example that we are all familar would be the cement in concrete. When it cures it is solid and in fact it gets more durable if we soak it. Many rock quarries are almost like diving in diluted portland cement.

Regulators have so many convoluted shapes such as threaded areas etc that it is vitrually impossible to return even the most agreeable components back to a liquid form by soaking your gear regardless of how long you attempt the process. Once this happens the technician has to get much more aggressive in physically removing these deposits. Remember the key feature is to make sure that everything gets rinsed in mere minutes and not hours or days. The payback is well worth the effort for the minimum time expended.

Note: I will need to start a new thread with the "Bag Trick" in order to show the step by step process.

Edited by Senior Tech, 14 February 2005 - 03:42 PM.

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 07:15 AM

Hey ST! till waiting fo the pictures..... :birthday:
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Posted 06 February 2005 - 11:08 AM

Hey, yeah... me too! Where are the pics? :cool1:

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 04:10 PM

C'mon guys - it's like radio vs. television. The pictures are better in your head.

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 04:11 PM

C'mon guys - it's like radio vs. television. The pictures are better in your head.

Personally, I prefer the written word....can't you tell? :evilgrin:
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Posted 06 February 2005 - 04:29 PM

I think he knows the 'bag trick' but doesn't know the 'upload pic trick'. Marvel wave your magic wand.

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 05:15 PM

C'mon guys - it's like radio vs. television. The pictures are better in your head.

Naughty things happen when left to my imagination.... I need the pics :evilgrin:

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 07:41 PM

(Soaking in a tub is very much like putting another lock on the barn door after the horses are gone.)

I still do not understand the "why? " to above statement.
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Posted 06 February 2005 - 09:42 PM

The pictures are better in your head.


Well, not until he actually describes the proceedure.
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Posted 06 February 2005 - 10:07 PM

Hey gang...spoke to Senior Tech and somehow the pictures have been corrupted. He is working on them now. I told him we'd still be here when he got them fixed!

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 10:58 PM

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:evilgrin: It's not working! Come on folks, I need your help!!!!
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Posted 07 February 2005 - 07:14 AM

What are you trying to do, darlin'?
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Posted 08 February 2005 - 01:54 PM

C'mon guys - it's like radio vs. television.  The pictures are better in your head.

Naughty things happen when left to my imagination.... I need the pics :P

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 09:24 PM

Hey gang...spoke to Senior Tech and somehow the pictures have been corrupted. He is working on them now. I told him we'd still be here when he got them fixed!

Wait a minute WW
I was born on the backside of a buyou and raised by an O'possium family
but I can figure out that the missing pic's are the one's you have been sending me to fix. Hmmmm Interesting SD.comer's :thankyou:

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 09:40 PM

I apologize for not being able to post the bag trick sooner. I think I have fixed the pictures and will upload them barring any additional problems tomorrow. I hope the trick will be worth the wait. Thank you, Senior Tech
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