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[Moose]

OK, I travel ALOT for a living. One of the things I HATE to do is remove my belt when I go through a metal detector. For years I have been searching for a non-metal belt buckle, but I can't find one.

Does anyone here know of any link for one? Or better yet, how I could make something like that? Thanks in advance.

(BTW, I just got back from New Orleans and will be back there in a week or so. Any SD’ers here in that area?)

[UP Diver]

Moose -

The belt-less approach, as it was explained to me as I stood by holding my pants up with my hand, was to eliminate the metal belt buckle from the search. We all know the zipper and the fastener are metal and MAY make the buzzer sound, depending on the equipment at the TSA station. By making everyone go through sans belt there is a lowered chance of metal detection and less delay for the "usual' traveler.

Of course, those of us who have been residual warriors (athletic, military, general stupidity warriors) what have implanted metal pins, plates, screws, joints will get the full house search regardless of a belted or beltless security gate!

If you did have a synthetic zipper, button instead of metal pant closure and synthetic belt buckle, you MIGHT make it through the metal detector. Remember, TSA personnel are supposed to be using the same level of security with all. If men have to pull shoes off to have them X-Rayed to make sure we are not carrying IEDs, women and children do too!

Let us all hope the sophistication of detection devices will improve in the future, as well as the expansion of the CBP Global Traveler program to replace the now defunct "Known Traveler" program. Just my 2 PSI...

UP Diver

[scubaski]

OK, I travel ALOT for a living. One of the things I HATE to do is remove my belt when I go through a metal detector. For years I have been searching for a non-metal belt buckle, but I can't find one.

Does anyone here know of any link for one? Or better yet, how I could make something like that? Thanks in advance.

(BTW, I just got back from New Orleans and will be back there in a week or so. Any SD’ers here in that area?)

I bought some convertible pants ( legs zip off for shorts) all nylon zippers and web belt w/ plastic quick release from REI. Dicks Sport and LLBean may have same. Check out your local army/navy sports for quick disconnect nylon buckles and some 1'' web and make your own belt. I did this for 2" crotch strap for my BP.

[UP Diver]

OK, I travel ALOT for a living. One of the things I HATE to do is remove my belt when I go through a metal detector. For years I have been searching for a non-metal belt buckle, but I can't find one.

Does anyone here know of any link for one? Or better yet, how I could make something like that? Thanks in advance.

(BTW, I just got back from New Orleans and will be back there in a week or so. Any SD’ers here in that area?)

I bought some convertible pants ( legs zip off for shorts) all nylon zippers and web belt w/ plastic quick release from REI. Dicks Sport and LLBean may have same. Check out your local army/navy sports for quick disconnect nylon buckles and some 1'' web and make your own belt. I did this for 2" crotch strap for my BP.

Stan -

My point was that although non-metallic fasteners may be available in a full wardrobe collection .... TSA personnel will STILL start to make noise about "...lose your belt so we can scan it...". It always reminds me of a group of south-going Zax (remember your Dr. Seuss)!

UP Diver

[Landlocked Dive Nut]

It's almost like a game of strip-travel! I always have to take off my shiny silver starfish necklace when I go through security.....along with shoes & belt & jacket. Maybe next time, I'll do the bra-removal trick without taking off the blouse! Wait, no, I don't want to draw that kind of attention from no-nonsense security!

[Moose]

It's almost like a game of strip-travel! I always have to take off my shiny silver starfish necklace when I go through security.....along with shoes & belt & jacket. Maybe next time, I'll do the bra-removal trick without taking off the blouse! Wait, no, I don't want to draw that kind of attention from no-nonsense security!

maybe I'll just strip down to my boxers next time. That should get my "point" across! 8>)

[peterbj7]

I use Rohan shorts and trousers. Not sure if they've made it across the pond, but they come with a webbing belt which has an all-plastic Fastex buckle.

Soon you won't need to strip anyway. They're introducing new whole-body scanners that show you as Nature originally designed you, regardless what clothes you might have on. I've seen some images, and they really left nothing at all to the imagination. Supposedly non-invasive (other than your privacy) and safe.....

[Landlocked Dive Nut]

They're introducing new whole-body scanners that show you as Nature originally designed you, regardless what clothes you might have on. I've seen some images, and they really left nothing at all to the imagination. Supposedly non-invasive (other than your privacy) and safe.....

Been through a few of the new machines.....they slow the entire process down even worse, IMHO!

[Moose]

I use Rohan shorts and trousers. Not sure if they've made it across the pond, but they come with a webbing belt which has an all-plastic Fastex buckle.

Soon you won't need to strip anyway. They're introducing new whole-body scanners that show you as Nature originally designed you, regardless what clothes you might have on. I've seen some images, and they really left nothing at all to the imagination. Supposedly non-invasive (other than your privacy) and safe.....

We had these in Iraq. Talk about a camera adding a 10 lbs! You NEVER want to see your own scan with these!

BTW, they are pretty easy to defeat if you know how.

[Scubatooth]

Moose and LLDN I just spit my drink all over the windshield off the truck and my toughbook.

As for pants moose I will have to look in my closet but I have several pair of light weight nylon pants I use for travel that use a backpack strap as a belt and are similar to what stan described. In any case you can get the straps easily from rei and use the as a belt. I use them frequent at work with my tactical ems pants.

No comment on TSA as I'll go way over/out of bounds if I get started on TSA.

Edited by Scubatooth, 23 October 2009 - 02:50 PM.

[scubaski]

Cloth or nylon pants/shorts and cloth belt with plastic fasteners and TSA has never stopped me thur x-ray or gas analizer. They do however look closely at the dive computers because of thier ability to detect ghanges in pressure and time. I just suggest they put the gas analizer wand to the carry on bag and I'm off in less the 3 minutes. I'll time it for you tomorrow BOS-->CZM.

[uwfan]

It's almost like a game of strip-travel! I always have to take off my shiny silver starfish necklace when I go through security.....along with shoes & belt & jacket. Maybe next time, I'll do the bra-removal trick without taking off the blouse! Wait, no, I don't want to draw that kind of attention from no-nonsense security!

Apparently that removal trick is necessary if it has a wire... or they can wand scan and sort it all out.... NAH, they would much rather torture you THEN have you go in that "little room"!

[TonyL]

Moose,

I'm pretty sure that Botach Tactical sells some.

Tony