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Should we just ONLY choose boats where we can take the full boat AND keep it all SDer's?
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When doing a liveaboard.... Half Boat or Full Boat?
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, Jul 13 2011 09:19 AM
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:19 AM
When we opt to do a Liveaboard we've ALWAYS chosen for the most part to do a full boat. But with times tighter does it make sense to do only a half boat vs not offereing a liveaboard at all?
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Should we just ONLY choose boats where we can take the full boat AND keep it all SDer's?
We'd really appreciate your input!
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Should we just ONLY choose boats where we can take the full boat AND keep it all SDer's?
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:38 AM
On the Grenada trip we shared the boat with some tourists out for the day. One of those guys was a walking accident. He tripped in his dive rig on deck and took out another person, he was swept away from the boat in strong current because he refused assistance and was snotty the entire trip. He had ten dives and knew it all.
Having been on three (one resort and two liveaboards), I like full SD trips. Typically you "know" most if not all of the folks from the thread discussion beforehand and it is usually a more mature crowd. The people on the trips are usually better qualified and confident in the water. Even the ones who say they are nervous are better than most I have met elsewhere. That advance contact makes for a faster "mesh" for people on the trips. I have always come away from SD trips with a smile and many friends.
That is my 2 psi anyway.
Having been on three (one resort and two liveaboards), I like full SD trips. Typically you "know" most if not all of the folks from the thread discussion beforehand and it is usually a more mature crowd. The people on the trips are usually better qualified and confident in the water. Even the ones who say they are nervous are better than most I have met elsewhere. That advance contact makes for a faster "mesh" for people on the trips. I have always come away from SD trips with a smile and many friends.
That is my 2 psi anyway.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:45 AM
I basically agree with Simon....if they are part of our group, there are better controls. If they don't belong to our group, it's difficult to pull them aside and have "the talk" and get positive results.
On the flip side, there are a lot of great people out there who do not belong to SD.com, and I've seen the Wench pull them into our group while on a resort-based trip. Resort-based is vastly different from liveaboard, though. Just can't get away from the idiots while on a boat....
On the flip side, there are a lot of great people out there who do not belong to SD.com, and I've seen the Wench pull them into our group while on a resort-based trip. Resort-based is vastly different from liveaboard, though. Just can't get away from the idiots while on a boat....
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 12:08 PM
On the one hand - it is good to be with folks who are known quantities - on the other it would not be fair to miss a great trip.
My only worry would be if we were 50%, and the boat couldn't recruit the rest - would the trip get scrubbed?
My only worry would be if we were 50%, and the boat couldn't recruit the rest - would the trip get scrubbed?
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 01:10 PM
To me, the best option is a full SD boat. That gives you great diving, with a boat full of people that you know to some extent. Of course, there are a lot of trips that I would love to take, that Kamala might not be able to fill up. Going on one of those trips with 6-12 other Single Divers is a far better option than going on those trips alone. That said, I vote for the half boat option as a positive. It is not replacing the full charters I would figure, so it can add to the choices. Ed
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:06 PM
On the one hand - it is good to be with folks who are known quantities - on the other it would not be fair to miss a great trip.
My only worry would be if we were 50%, and the boat couldn't recruit the rest - would the trip get scrubbed?
I asked the EV people that and they say they have gone out with only 2 guests for a week before. With the economy the way it is they may not be able to avoid that scenario.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:25 PM
I really liked the liveaboards that I have done, one with a full SD boat and one that was not. I liked them both and did not have a problem with anyone on either boat. But then, I've only done two liveaboards... my 2 pennies
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 04:31 PM
I've done 4 or 5. Liveaboard divers seem better in my opinion that land based divers in general. Their skills are better and they seemed more reasonable for the most part. Partiers don't want to get stuck on a boat. I'm not sure it matters much.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 05:34 PM
Kamala,
Since I am a true outsider on this subject,but offering only a opinion.I think all above comments have validity.I would rather have a glass half full than none.....Better to hang out with the "RIGHT"group,than to be without....Another adage of "You can't please all the people all the time"....
My .01 worth
Since I am a true outsider on this subject,but offering only a opinion.I think all above comments have validity.I would rather have a glass half full than none.....Better to hang out with the "RIGHT"group,than to be without....Another adage of "You can't please all the people all the time"....
My .01 worth
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E= pluribus Forum Enjoy the view. ,Do unto others:respect
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