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#1 WreckWench

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:31 AM

When traveling internationally on a foreign carrier...be aware that carry on's may start to be weighed. Singapore Air already does this and limits carry ons. If you know of other carriers please help us compile a master list. :thankyou:

LIMITS FOR CARRY ON BAGS


From Platyman's post...pls read the article:
Carry on luggage allowances.

International Airline/Flight Policies - Carry On Luggage


Airline


Allowance


Max wt per piece


Max size per piece

Aer Lingus



One plus small personal items


6kg/13lbs


22" x 18" x 10"

Aeroflot


One plus small personal items


10kg/22lbs


115cm/45"

Air Canada


One piece plus one personal item


10kg/22lbs each


21.5" x 15.5" x 9"

personal item 17" x 13" x 6"

Air France



One plus one accessory


12kg/26.4lbs for both

18kg/39.6lbs in business class


115cm/45"

Air New Zealand


One plus personal items


7kg/15lbs


115cm/45"

Alitalia


One


5kg/11lbs


55cm x 35cm x 25cm (22" x 14" x 10")

All Nippon Airways



One plus personal items


10kg/22lbs


115cm/45" but max dimensions 22" x 16" x 9"

Asiana


One plus personal items

Two plus personal items for first/business class


10kg/22lbs


55cm x 40cm x 23cm

Austrian Airlines



One


8kg/18lbs


115cm/45"

BMI British Midland



One plus one personal item


'You must be able to lift it yourself'


55cm x 40cm x 23cm

British Airways


One plus one personal item


not specified (was formerly 23kg/51lbs)


56cm x 45cm x 25cm

Cathay Pacific


One plus one personal item

J/P pax can also bring 1 garment or soft bag


7/10/15kg (15/22/33lbs) for coach/bus/first


115cm/45"

easyJet


One


no weight limit specified


55cm x 40cm x 20cm

El Al



One


8kg/17.6lb


22" x 18" x 10"

Emirates


One for coach

Two for J/P pax


7kg/15lbs
12kg/26lbs total for J/P pax


22" x 15" x 8"

EVA Air


One plus a laptop


7kg/15lbs


56cm x 36cm x 23cm

Finnair


One plus personal items

Two for Business Class plus personal items


8kg/18lb coach
10kg/22lb combined for Business Class


22" x 18" x 10"

Garuda



One plus personal items


7kg/15lbs


56cm x 36cm x 32cm

Iberia


One plus personal items


10kg/22lbs


115cm/45"

Icelandair


One plus personal items


6kg/13lbs


115cm/45"

Japan Airlines


One plus one personal item


10kg/22lbs


115cm/45"

KLM


One plus one personal item


12kg/26lbs


55cm x 35cm x 25cm (115cm total/45")

Korean Air


One plus one personal item


12kg/25lbs


55cm x 40cm x 20cm (21" x 16" x 8" in) = 115cm/45"

LanChile


One piece plus one personal item


8kg/18lbs

16kg/35lbs for first/business class


55cm x 25cm x 35cm = 115cm

Lufthansa


One piece plus personal items


8kg/18lbs


55cm x 40cm x 20cm

Malaysia Airlines


One piece plus one personal item


5kg/11lbs


115cm/45" on widebody, 40" on single aisle planes

Mexicana


One piece


10kg


115cm/45"

Olympic Airlines


One piece


8kg


56cm x 36cm x 23cm

OpenSkies


One piece plus a laptop or briefcase


23kg/51lbs - must be able to lift into overhead unaided


56cm x 45cm x 25cm

Qantas


One plus personal items
2 pieces for J/P travel except to/from the US when only 1


7kg/15lbs


115cm/45"

Ryanair


One


10kg/22lbs


55cm x 40cm x 20cm

SAS



One


8kg/18lbs


115cm/45"

Singapore Airlines


One plus personal items


7kg/15lbs


115cm/45"

South African Airways


One


8kg


115cm/45"

Swiss


One plus personal items

Two for J/P pax


8kg


115cm/45"

Thai Airways


One


7kg/15lbs


115cm/45"

Virgin Atlantic


One plus personal items

Two for Upper Class


6kg/13lbs

16kg total, no more than 12kg each for Upper Class


115cm/45"

WestJet


Two


10kg each


First 21.5" x 15.5" x 9"; second 16.5" x 13" x 6"

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:21 AM

Remember back when I named this the Qantas Ambush?

Here is a list, last updated in the Spring of 2010:

Carry on luggage allowances.

Here's a Second chart as well, from the previous thread on this topic.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:06 PM

Yep, probably the next great revenue generator for the airlines, weighing your carry-on[s]. They'll probably charge overages by the ounce [25g]!!!

It's real easy to blow any weight allowance when your packin' a digital SLR w/ housing + multiple lenses/ports & strobes, regs, a couple dive computers and a laptop

Scubaski - watch out, it will be impossible to pack for a week with just a carry on!!!

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:15 PM

PPM thats BS, the airline cant just absolve themselves of liabilty like that, and there are international conventions that state otherwise. Having elite status helps but just in case I have a form I carry in my folio when the airlines want to force me to check my legal size, yet maybe a little heavy carryon (depending on the trip my rollaboard maybe pushing 70lbs). The form basically says there forcing me to seperate from my property against my will and that they will accept liability for any damage/loss, and then goes on to ask for collateral. Typically they see that portion of the form and theres not a problem anymore.


WW - might want to use the industry standard for different classes of service. P is not alwaysfirst class around the world as P class on LH (and a couple other just dont remember them offhand) is a Business class fare code, and R used to be the Fare class for Concorde flights on both BA and AF. Just food for thought.

(wh)Y = Economy
Y+ = Premium Economy (most of the major international airlines have this now)
J = Business Class
F = First Class

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:54 PM

Cayman Airways

40 pounds

Cayman Airways via Twin Otter to Cayman Brac and Little Cayman

15 pounds
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:44 AM

Cayman Airways

40 pounds

Cayman Airways via Twin Otter to Cayman Brac and Little Cayman

15 pounds



Is this from their website> They promote 2 55# bags but that may be only via contract air. This would be something to follow up on.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:30 AM

Cayman Airways

40 pounds

Cayman Airways via Twin Otter to Cayman Brac and Little Cayman

15 pounds



Is this from their website> They promote 2 55# bags but that may be only via contract air. This would be something to follow up on.


The original post was only asking about carryon restrictions? The language around Cayman Brac and Little Cayman is below the main baggage limit information.

The 40 pounds for a carry on is for Cayman Air destinations OTHER THAN Brac and Little Cayman. Two 55 pound bags may be checked.

For Brac and LC, served by Twin Otter, there is a 15 pound carry on limit, and only one 55 pound bag may be checked at no charge.

With that being said, I travel to LC every year, I know you travel to Cayman Brac too. Last time I carried a gear bag that weighed in at 45 pounds, and a second checked bag which was 19 pounds, and a carry on which was just a few pounds. I don't worry about it. I travel light and go. They do take care to weigh everything as the planes are tiny and the weight has to be limited.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:32 AM

I guess that means I will NOT be bringing any redundant gear to the Brac trip this August! :D
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:44 AM

The worst is when you change airlines on a single trip, or even just planes. You have to limit your baggage to the lowest anyone on your journey will carry - i=f you can find what that is. A couple of years back I flew from London to Belize, the whole way with American Airlines (my least favourite airline), on a single ticket. On checkin at Heathrow my two checked bags were each a little below the maximum. I had to overnight in Miami, so presented myself at checkin the following morning to be told that my bags were severely overweight. I pointed out that I had just flown from London on AA with them and they said "that was an international flight. This is a domestic one and baggage allowances are much lower". When I pointed out that Belize is not yet a part of the USA that point was glossed over. It took over an hour of arguing and a missed flight before they allowed me to board without paying massive overweight charges. Dreadful airline.

Last year I flew from Cancun to Boston on Spirit Airlines. They don't do through tickets so I had a separate ticket for each takeoff, all bought at the same time though. The significance of this didn't strike me at the time. I was allowed 50lb per bag from Cancun to Ft. Lauderdale, but when I tried to check in for the lext leg I was told that as it was a domestic flight the limit was now 40lb. No amount of arguing was going to shift them, as is invariably the case with "budget" airlines, and my excess baggage charges doubled the cost of my flight. I'll never fly with them again either.

Later this year I'm travelling to Rome from London. I'm going by train. The up-front price is higher than flying, but when you count in the hassle and hidden costs of flying, especially with the budget airlines that go there oh so cheaply, it'll be much cheaper and so much more pleasant!

Incidentally, if anyone knows of decent well located budget accommodation in Rome for a two/three week stay please tell me.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:44 AM

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:24 AM

I have one of those vests. Bought it for photography but haven't had the nerve to use it yet. I suppose that if their use becomes general they'll start to weigh your clothing! Maybe even weigh people - an obvious thing to do, but I'd like to see the first airline that attempts it.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:15 PM

I guess that means I will NOT be bringing any redundant gear to the Brac trip this August! :D


I've been back and forth a few times, all on individual airfare, and never had them hold me to their posted one 55 pound checked/one 19 pound carryon policy for LC/Brac. I mean, both the Brac and LC are very dependent on diving. They do not post a policy allowing an extra bag of sporting gear. But I have checked two bags each time, one roughly 50 pounds, and one roughly 20 pounds, and a small carryon weighing maybe 15 and have never been charged.

They SEEM to go by the general Cayman air policy which is two 55 pound bags and a 40 pound carry on.

But to Peter's point, coming BACK, American's policy only allowed two 50 pound bags out of Grand Cayman, so I had to move a few things into my lighter bag to accomodate their policy. They would have charged me for the 5 pounds over in my gear bag even though the only other bag I had was about 19 pounds.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:17 PM

I have one of those vests. Bought it for photography but haven't had the nerve to use it yet. I suppose that if their use becomes general they'll start to weigh your clothing! Maybe even weigh people - an obvious thing to do, but I'd like to see the first airline that attempts it.



If you travel with me you'll see I wear one. They are a 3rd carry on for many people. I have ONLY been questioned once and I said it was part of my total body allowance. The attendant looked at me and I said very sweetly... "when you start weighing men twice my size and people grossly overweight... then I'll worry about how much my 'clothes' weigh! She decided to not hassle me. I also make sure my clothes really do blend with my travel vest...its helps a lot.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:19 PM

I guess that means I will NOT be bringing any redundant gear to the Brac trip this August! :D


I've been back and forth a few times, all on individual airfare, and never had them hold me to their posted one 55 pound checked/one 19 pound carryon policy for LC/Brac. I mean, both the Brac and LC are very dependent on diving. They do not post a policy allowing an extra bag of sporting gear. But I have checked two bags each time, one roughly 50 pounds, and one roughly 20 pounds, and a small carryon weighing maybe 15 and have never been charged.

They SEEM to go by the general Cayman air policy which is two 55 pound bags and a 40 pound carry on.

But to Peter's point, coming BACK, American's policy only allowed two 50 pound bags out of Grand Cayman, so I had to move a few things into my lighter bag to accomodate their policy. They would have charged me for the 5 pounds over in my gear bag even though the only other bag I had was about 19 pounds.



Tammy you will be limited to the weight limits of the other US carreir you are flying as Cayman DOES allow (2) 55# bags to Cayman Brac. So you should be good to go!

Thank you Leslie...for a moment you had me worried but I found the same info as you did...just didn't get a chance to post it.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:07 PM

Folks, if they are filing bankruptcy and merging right and left then they are NOT making alot of money. They may charge alot, but in aviation the fastest way to have 1 million dollars at years end is to start the year with 2 million. That statement is far truer than most people realize.


There are alot of costs involved in human cargo not involved in goods cargo. Cabin crews, ticket agents, terminal costs (airlines, not airports, pay for the terminals at construction time), gate agents, excessive customer support, legal costs, and security just to name a few. These sorts of things run up the cost and largely don't exist at all or not to the same extent for cargo only air businesses. I could see a blanket fee to cover these sunk costs plus a $/lb fuel fee to cover fuel costs for you and your cargo as being a reasonable option. The fuel fee would be multiplied by flight time to get to your destination, of course, so it would vary by flight. Then they would get away from any free bags and have much fairer pricing all around. I will argue they should be doing this now instead of this complicated business that isn't fair to them or us, costs everyone too much, and only succeeds at pissing everyone off. Alot of times I fly with no checked bags but still pay for one "free" checked bag plus my other two "free" carry-ons that they actually charged me for in the ticket even if I only have one carryon. They also assume I am an overweight American which I am not. That money makes up for some of the others that illegally and unethically sneak 70 lbs onboard or are way overweight themselves. Of course, more people fly heavy than not so the airlines ending up losing on the deal.

They would be right to charge for every pound we bring on that airplane regardless of whether it bags or us. Each pound translates directly to fuel costs and that cost goes up very quickly per pound. It's actually a sliding scale, every pound of smuggled cargo requires more fuel. Then aircraft weight goes by the weight of the smuggled goods plus the weight of the fuel required to transport it which requires even more fuel since the plane is heavier. They get around this by measuring weight on wheels after loading and before fueling then calculating how much fuel is required to land with nearly empty tanks on the other end since they don't want to carry more fuel than necessary.

My point is, the weight of your baggage and yourself does matter a whole lot to an airline that charges costs upfront without knowing the weights involved.




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