cuba
#1
Posted 03 November 2004 - 06:50 PM
#2
Posted 03 November 2004 - 08:01 PM
Linda
#3
Posted 03 November 2004 - 09:17 PM
Dr. Bill
#4
Posted 04 November 2004 - 08:00 AM
#5
Posted 04 November 2004 - 08:18 AM
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#6
Posted 04 November 2004 - 08:56 AM
Good question. Bill could probably legitimately fall into the category he mentions. I for one am not the type to break the rules (gosh the 2 times I parked in a no paking by mistake, I got parking tickets). However the rest of us might have trouble qualifying legally with his option.
However I think it would be a cool place to dive.
Linda
Linda
#7
Posted 04 November 2004 - 09:02 AM
It's quite easy to circumvent the rules illegally and not get caught. While I strongly disagree with this particular law, I plan to comply until it's changed. OTOH, I could likely qualify as a research assistant.
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#8
Posted 04 November 2004 - 09:27 AM
Move to Canada..... Cuba is a favorite vacation spot for many Canadians.So Bill, how would one go about getting around the restrictions legally?
#9
Posted 04 November 2004 - 09:32 AM
...being European I don't have such restrictions (although probably will not try in the near future as it may impact my US visa)
Getting a reseach / education visa or permit to visit would be an interesting slant - I wonder if a dive club could apply and do a reef reseach trip.
#10
Posted 04 November 2004 - 10:04 AM
Move to Canada..... Cuba is a favorite vacation spot for many Canadians.
That wouldn't do it as the law applies to US citizens regardless of their country of residence. (or was that an invitation?)
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#11
Posted 04 November 2004 - 10:20 AM
#12
Posted 04 November 2004 - 10:36 AM
As for visiting legally, the requirements for educational or cultural exchanges are not that restrictive. My dive buddy Kathy went with a woman from SoCal who organizes many such trips a year. The qualifications are not very restrictive, so there are indeed legal ways to go under these visas. They are accepted by our government (which established them in the first place).
The existing law does not forbid US citizens from visiting Cuba, it prevents them from spending money there (except for the visa exceptions I've mentioned).
Of course one can also go dive Cuba from another country such as Mexico. My understanding is that Mexican vessels are allowed into Cuban territorial waters. You can take a liveaboard trip from Mexico that takes you into Cuban waters and allows you to dive to your heart's content. Of course these trips do not make landfall in Cuba and therefore there is no exchange of money with the Cuban people or government.
Dr. Bill
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, nor do I want to be, so have these "facts" checked legally before proceeding on your own!
#13
Posted 04 November 2004 - 10:53 AM
I have no problem with the existing law. I feel for the Cubans, but I am not interested in supporting the Cuban government with my tourist dollars.
My problem with the law is it singles out Cuba. Why should the laws not target all communist countries equally? Viet Nam isn't even singled out in this manner.
Bill, part of the settlement of the Cuban missle crisis was our removal of missles from Turkey.
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#14
Posted 04 November 2004 - 11:16 AM
My problem with the law is it singles out Cuba. Why should the laws not target all communist countries equally? Viet Nam isn't even singled out in this manner.
You are right, Walter. I would not want to go to Vietnam either. Poor countries, fine. Repressive governments, no. In high school I had a friend that escaped from N. Vietnam. Awful stories.
I am so glad the cold war is over. I remember as a kid being pleased that I lived at the third most important nuclear target in the U.S. If it happened, it would be over quick for me.
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Posted 04 November 2004 - 08:07 PM
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