Ear Clearing and being a new diver...
#1
Posted 27 June 2006 - 10:14 AM
Have any other new divers felt the same way?
What did you do to overcome it?
What tricks do you all have for clearing and equalizing better that our new diver might benefit from?
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#2
Posted 27 June 2006 - 10:28 AM
I had a similar problem when I started diving as well. I can tell you that it does get easier. The things I had to learn were:
a) Don't blow to hard. If it is hard to clear come up a couple of feet and it will be easier to clear.
b) Your descending to fast. This is probably because your excited so just slow down and descend slower.
c) If your not used to clearing your ears that way above the water it does take a while to get your body used to doing it. So practice outside of the water.
d) Be sure you have clean ears. I usually always wash my ears out with an ear syringe just before going on a trip. I have found that this really helps me.
Hope this helps.
Scott
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#3
Posted 27 June 2006 - 10:32 AM
my biggest suggestion is to take it slow on descent if you have problems stop clear it then proceed on. to helop me with my problem if im diving multiple days in a row i will use some allergy meds to keep them open, but a word of warning on that in if your ears are not clearing and you took the meds and they wear off you may really have a problem on ascent.
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Edited by Scubatooth, 27 June 2006 - 10:58 AM.
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#4
Posted 27 June 2006 - 10:43 AM
#5
Posted 27 June 2006 - 11:28 AM
So, what to do?
1. Pay attention to your ears before the dive - I sometimes prep my ears in advance, using decongestants (sprays or allergy medications) that I have discussed in length with my doctor. During high allergy seasons, I may have to work with a combination of products - 24-hour Claritin and a 12-hour decongestant, then nasal spray as a back-up that I keep in my dive float. Side note: I use none of these when doing more advanced "technical" dives, however.
2. Pay attention to your ears during the dive - preclear, preclear, preclear - I cannot say it enough. Often times divers wait to clear until the feel pressure. Since I know I have sensitive ears, I preclear before I go down (i.e. "fill my ears up with air" before submerging) and then I clear the whole way down. I keep those tubes open!! Once at depth I do not find that I have difficulty keeping my ears clear (less % of pressure change at that point). Sometimes I also release the hood pressure from my ears (I dive in cold water with a 5mm hood) or I massage my ear and the area below my ear when I am having to work harder with the ears to try and keep surrounding swelling to a minimum. It's during descent when I have had my ears "lock up" on me - so I try to avoid that at all costs - if they lock up once during a dive, I know the rest of my day will be a struggle because it means the tissues are swollen and cranky, which is minor barotrauma.
3. Pay attention to your ears after the dive - I now use swimmers ear (basically a 50/50 mix of rubbing alcohol and white distilled vinegar) either after my dives or in-between my dives if my ears still feel full of water. Excess trapped water can lead to irritation which causes the surrounding tissues to swell and can eventually lead to ear infections.
Everybody's ear issues are different and I always tell people to consult with your doctor, ESPECIALLY if you end up needing pill/spray/syrup assistance.
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#6
Posted 27 June 2006 - 11:45 AM
If the end, clearing ears for me became instinctive. I believe that it does that for most frequent divers as well.
#7
Posted 27 June 2006 - 12:37 PM
Yikes! What kind of dive requires this fast a descent?<snip> Keep in mind that some dives call for you to go into the water negative and descend like a rock. If that case, you may get stuck calling the dive if your ears didn't clear.< snip>
#8
Posted 27 June 2006 - 12:40 PM
#9
Posted 27 June 2006 - 01:07 PM
Yikes! What kind of dive requires this fast a descent?<snip> Keep in mind that some dives call for you to go into the water negative and descend like a rock. If that case, you may get stuck calling the dive if your ears didn't clear.< snip>
A hot drop on a wreck when there's a screaming current. While this is sometimes done, it's rarely necessary for anyone other than the DM who drops in solo to tie to the wreck.
What tricks do you all have for clearing and equalizing better that our new diver might benefit from?
There are several methods of equalization and some tips to help them all work easier.
The most common method of equalization is the Valsalva Maneuver. Named for Antonio Valsalva, this technique involves pinching off the nostrils and blowing gently into the nose. Never blow forcefully while attempting this method as a too forceful Valsalva Maneuver can result in the rupture of the eardrum, round window or oval window. This will usually result in immediate vertigo and hearing loss, which can be permanent.
The Frenzel Maneuver was named for developer, Herman Frenzel of the Luftwaffe in World War II. This method is preformed by closing off the vocal cords, pinching the nostrils while an effort is made to make a "guh" sound.
The Toynbee Maneuver is simply pinching of the nostrils while swallowing.
Beance Tubaire Voluntaire (BTV) or Voluntary Tubal Opening is the preferred method of equalization once mastered. It feels very much like the beginning of a yawn and a difference in tonal quality of sounds will be noticed when successful. The muscles of the upper throat are used to pull open the Eustachian tube.
You should employ equalization techniques immediately upon descent and continue them regularly on descent. If any pain is experienced, you should ascend until all pain disappears and begin again.
Another equalization technique divers find helpful is to gently massage the area under the ear, just behind the jaw and against the jaw bone. This is most effective when used in conjunction with one of the methods discussed above.
Often divers find it useful to chew gum or eat crunchy foods such as apples or carrots prior to diving. You should not attempt to chew gum or eat while diving.
If you are unable to equalize ear pressure, it is possible to rupture the eardrum, round window or oval window. This will usually result in immediate vertigo and hearing loss, which can be permanent. If you are unable to equalize, you should abort the dive.
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#10
Posted 27 June 2006 - 01:19 PM
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#11
Posted 27 June 2006 - 01:25 PM
Yikes! What kind of dive requires this fast a descent?<snip> Keep in mind that some dives call for you to go into the water negative and descend like a rock. If that case, you may get stuck calling the dive if your ears didn't clear.< snip>
Also might be done if the boat has no intention of anchoring. You drop in, do your dive, shoot a bag, and wait for the boat to collect you. Don't worry, you probably won't be seeing one of these.. as Walter said, they are not common.
#12
Posted 27 June 2006 - 02:02 PM
(heaving a very big sigh of relief) Good to know!Yikes! What kind of dive requires this fast a descent?<snip> Keep in mind that some dives call for you to go into the water negative and descend like a rock. If that case, you may get stuck calling the dive if your ears didn't clear.< snip>
Also might be done if the boat has no intention of anchoring. You drop in, do your dive, shoot a bag, and wait for the boat to collect you. Don't worry, you probably won't be seeing one of these.. as Walter said, they are not common.
#13
Posted 27 June 2006 - 03:46 PM
It's all good now - you are certified, you can relax.(heaving a very big sigh of relief) Good to know!
We had an opportunity to chase a big school at Cabo Pulmo last year - and that was a backroll off a small boat, with an immediate head-down descent to catch the school and drift with them.
HOWEVER, we briefed it, we agreed if anyone had problems the buddy team would hang together until the ears cleared.
Like most have said - practice seems to make ear clearing much easier, you learn to be gentle, you learn to preclear and clear frequently as you descend.
I do recommend an ENT for any diver with ear problems - they have some great solutions. For most of us, over-the-counter sudafed and afrin can really help keep you clear if used properly.
Speaking of ENTs - I met one at our OW class this past weekend. His son and daughter were getting their OW. If you live near Southlake, PM me for his name - having one who is also a diver will greatly help your rapport.
Jacques Yves Cousteau
#14
Posted 27 June 2006 - 03:48 PM
(heaving a very big sigh of relief) Good to know!Yikes! What kind of dive requires this fast a descent?<snip> Keep in mind that some dives call for you to go into the water negative and descend like a rock. If that case, you may get stuck calling the dive if your ears didn't clear.< snip>
Also might be done if the boat has no intention of anchoring. You drop in, do your dive, shoot a bag, and wait for the boat to collect you. Don't worry, you probably won't be seeing one of these.. as Walter said, they are not common.
When that type of dive is attempted, most captains are usually very careful to make sure everyone on the dive is comfortable with the skills/concepts.
Thank you for an outstanding post!
You're welcome, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and then.
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#15
Posted 27 June 2006 - 04:16 PM
Thank you for an outstanding post!
You're welcome, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and then.
Well thank goodness you are frequently blind!!! And here's to more squirrely blind acorns!!!
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