Bad vibes and diving alone,,,,,,,
#1
Posted 14 February 2009 - 05:48 PM
#2
Posted 14 February 2009 - 06:12 PM
I blame that feeling on not having much experience with the site and still being a relatively new diver. I have come to love mudballs now, even though I've been told there are experienced divers that opt out of that particular site. I also get a bad vibe on the surface sometimes due to conditons (big swell, etc.) and just won't dive. I had no problem turning to WreckWench on the NC Wreck trip and simply saying "I'm not diving." When asked why the response usually was "Just not feeling it". You have to listen to yourself. I joke with my friends that diving is like sex. Anyone involved can call it off at any time for any reason without consequences. Safety first.
#3
Posted 14 February 2009 - 06:40 PM
I joke with my friends that diving is like sex. Anyone involved can call it off at any time for any reason without consequences. Safety first.
THat's a great analogy. I agree. If you get a really bad feeling, especially one that strong, maybe someone's trying to tell you something. If I feel someting's not quite right, no matter if it's just a feeling or something more, I'll call a dive in a minute. That's the sign of an experienced diver.
#4
Posted 14 February 2009 - 07:15 PM
#5
Posted 14 February 2009 - 08:18 PM
#6
Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:32 PM
Edited by Victoria, 14 February 2009 - 09:32 PM.
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#7
Posted 14 February 2009 - 10:12 PM
I joke with my friends that diving is like sex. Anyone involved can call it off at any time for any reason without consequences. Safety first.
THat's a great analogy. I agree. If you get a really bad feeling, especially one that strong, maybe someone's trying to tell you something. If I feel someting's not quite right, no matter if it's just a feeling or something more, I'll call a dive in a minute. That's the sign of an experienced diver.
I'll third this one.It's also a sign of a smart diver!
#8
Posted 15 February 2009 - 10:51 AM
I knew I had to go back to this mine and try it again, ( diving has been too good of time for too long) waited a few months, (lol, while I thought threw the wiseness of that decision?) so, same deal, alone, same depth, same gear, little different section of the mine. Headed down the bank waiting to see what was felt, and, nothing! I thought ,,,huh! I sure showed them!!! Some demons from a close to 400' deep 50 year abandoned iron mine thought they'd mess with me! I came out of that dive feeling like my cylinders had somehow morphed into the, "unlicensed nuclear accelerators" from the ghost busters movie.
But the whole deal made me wonder, they say the dead dont rest in an unmarked grave, perhaps some mine cave in, some murder site? In looking back, that is what the experience felt like. These mines have trees/brush growing on the banks to help control errosion and there all long dead but most still standing. So as you cross 50-60' everythings dead, there are no fish, no vegetation, just occasional cars, and abandoned mining equipment, and due to the small surface area compared to depth, 100' is about the limit of light penetration. So there is a lot of the mine with cold dark dead, nothingness. Just seemed strange that after proweling the depths of Superior (with its well over 1500 lost souls still interned) that this bizzare of dive shows up in a small iron mine in northern MN. I appreciate your thoughts, THANK YOU! T
#9
Posted 15 February 2009 - 08:04 PM
I joke with my friends that diving is like sex. Anyone involved can call it off at any time for any reason without consequences. Safety first.
THat's a great analogy. I agree. If you get a really bad feeling, especially one that strong, maybe someone's trying to tell you something. If I feel someting's not quite right, no matter if it's just a feeling or something more, I'll call a dive in a minute. That's the sign of an experienced diver.
Hi Deb and NJB!
I've heard divers say that before that "diving is just like sex", at the risk of swinging this post off course and hopefully not down into the ditch. I'm just not seeing it, I didn't think I was totally clueless about either one, but maybe after all these years,,,, I've really been missing something, but could someone explain this one to me, (here's where I'll be slaughtered, no doubt, LMAO!) THANKS! Terry
#10
Posted 15 February 2009 - 10:22 PM
Well, I am sure we could go all kinds of ways on this . . . but I'll control myself. LOL. I think here it's just what NJB said, if someone thumbs a dive, that's it, no questions asked. No one should dive outside their comfort zone and they are the only ones that can decide what that zone is. If someone had a problem with me thumbing a dive, I wouldn't dive with them again.I joke with my friends that diving is like sex. Anyone involved can call it off at any time for any reason without consequences. Safety first.
THat's a great analogy. I agree. If you get a really bad feeling, especially one that strong, maybe someone's trying to tell you something. If I feel someting's not quite right, no matter if it's just a feeling or something more, I'll call a dive in a minute. That's the sign of an experienced diver.
Hi Deb and NJB!
I've heard divers say that before that "diving is just like sex", at the risk of swinging this post off course and hopefully not down into the ditch. I'm just not seeing it, I didn't think I was totally clueless about either one, but maybe after all these years,,,, I've really been missing something, but could someone explain this one to me, (here's where I'll be slaughtered, no doubt, LMAO!) THANKS! Terry
As for the similarities with sex, you were diving alone - - - - and you called the dive. I can't, I want to, but it's just too easy. I'm going to stop typing now.
#11
Posted 15 February 2009 - 10:32 PM
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#12
Posted 16 February 2009 - 01:14 AM
Hi Deb and NJB!
I've heard divers say that before that "diving is just like sex", at the risk of swinging this post off course and hopefully not down into the ditch. I'm just not seeing it, I didn't think I was totally clueless about either one, but maybe after all these years,,,, I've really been missing something, but could someone explain this one to me, (here's where I'll be slaughtered, no doubt, LMAO!) THANKS! Terry
They are both ridiculously frustrating to have aborted after you've started.
In both situations a latex seal failure can cause unplanned leakage.
There is great dissent about how much visibility is required to fully enjoy the experience.
You can put in a lot of $, time, effort, and planning to dive in that awesome location you've lusted over for years. . . just to get "blown out" at the last minute.
You should research your site beforehand so you are aware of any potential "hazards"
The more "buddies" you have, the more often you can do both.
Everyone learns to dive single cylinders, still most men one day want to splash with doubles.
I could keep going, lol.
Trinity, I think you're gonna get us both in trouble man. Haha.
Edited by NJBerserker, 16 February 2009 - 01:51 AM.
#13
Posted 16 February 2009 - 07:01 AM
But a few times when I've been diving alone, something I often do, I've suddenly had a near-panic attack and wondered whether I would ever be found if I were to expire right there where I was. I remember feeling that strongly on one particular dive, when I was on the bottom at maybe 80mtr admiring a couple of huge and gleaming bronze propellers, having not seen any other divers from my group for a good 20 minutes.
Just as when you're over-exerting physically you need to stop working and allow your body to catch up, so in these cases I stop my mind working and allow the thoughts to go away. Going through some safety drills can often help to make your mind focus on the here and now instead of the "what if?". It's always worked for me so far, at any rate.
#14
Posted 16 February 2009 - 07:01 PM
Hey, I dive doubles. hee heeHi Deb and NJB!
I've heard divers say that before that "diving is just like sex", at the risk of swinging this post off course and hopefully not down into the ditch. I'm just not seeing it, I didn't think I was totally clueless about either one, but maybe after all these years,,,, I've really been missing something, but could someone explain this one to me, (here's where I'll be slaughtered, no doubt, LMAO!) THANKS! Terry
They are both ridiculously frustrating to have aborted after you've started.
In both situations a latex seal failure can cause unplanned leakage.
There is great dissent about how much visibility is required to fully enjoy the experience.
You can put in a lot of $, time, effort, and planning to dive in that awesome location you've lusted over for years. . . just to get "blown out" at the last minute.
You should research your site beforehand so you are aware of any potential "hazards"
The more "buddies" you have, the more often you can do both.
Everyone learns to dive single cylinders, still most men one day want to splash with doubles.
I could keep going, lol.
Trinity, I think you're gonna get us both in trouble man. Haha.
#15
Posted 16 February 2009 - 07:50 PM
Kamala I agree, air cards are a drag in that they seem as slow as snail mail, but how handy they are, its what I'm using now in the tub, typing this,,, not all that different then the Carib really, the airs warm under the heat lamps, the waters warm, thanks to my new water heater, the Guiness is still cold,,,,,,,, ok its no F-ing way like the Carib, but they are handy going down the highway sending and recieving e-mails, and how handy on a boat in the Carib..
Ok, NJB, (sorry for referring to you like a beer I wouldn't actually drink,,, what is your name?). I 've heard that anology between sex and diving, for a long time, for about six years longer then you've been alive. But I have to say, that list you came up with, dude, thats impressive, sounded much more like the list 6 well experienced divers in a bar would come up with. Your a lot younger then the rest of us, but there's dandy good perspective in your list. I hope our paths cross so I can buy you a beer for the smile it brought to my face to read. THANKS Man!
Peter, I can relate, we have a wreck just outside Duluths Harbor, near the entrance of the St. Loiuse River into Superior, where the warm water of the river stays above the cold of Superior, so you dive thru 30-50+ feet tanic acid water (coffee colored) to get to the wreck. So on the wreck its like a night dive. Shes split open so you can find your self inside w/o actually knowing it, where you dont dare let go of the anchor line during decent, that and your right in the middle of shipping lane with 1000' ore carriers cruising over your head. Its not 80 meters, (that on air?) but tricky just the same. I've been on dives like that where you feel the panic on your shoulder, your sucking your air like there's no tomorrow, well, for you anyway, and your correct to take a min. to rethink your situation, realize your not dead yet, then think how am I going to make sure I stay that way, Curious you ful time in Belize? THANKS EVERYONE! TRINITY
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