DIR
#1
Posted 08 May 2005 - 06:07 PM
#2
Posted 08 May 2005 - 06:41 PM
If you are interested in learning more about DIR, here are a few websites:
http://www.wkpp.org
http://www.gue.com
http://www.gue.com/e...j-hogarth.shtml
I'm not a GUE instructor, and am not affiliated with GUE. I have taken 3 GUE classes, and know a little about the philosophy behind some of the ideas. Some I agree with, some I don't, and some I'm not nearly experienced enough to have an opinion about.
I'd be happy to discuss with you what I think I know, if you're interested. You can pm me if you'd like. However, I'd probably prefer that you have this discussion with a technical diving instructor that you respect and trust. I'm just a diver, and am not qualified to defend or otherwise discuss any particular diving philosophy.
For some divers, this can be a very polarizing subject. I'm not one of them.
My idea about diving is pretty simple: if you're safe, you're having a good time, and you're not doing harm to the world around you, then you must being doing something right.
-david
Psalms 107:23-24
#3
Posted 08 May 2005 - 07:28 PM
#4
Posted 08 May 2005 - 08:27 PM
#5
Posted 08 May 2005 - 08:46 PM
However, they have some good points and make sense to a certain degree for general open water diving. With that said, the jokes about DIR are born from a fanatical following among their more devoted leagues. Those that do not prescribe to the DIR methodologies are disrespectively referred to as "strokes." Due to the fanatical, zealout like aggression of some in the DIR ranks, the term "stroke" has gained a certain admiration. That is, if being a Stroke is NOT being like the zealots, then it's a thing to strive for. So we joke about it.
The best thing for any novice diver is to gain experience, get comfortable and learn. THEN decide if you want to go technical or cave. If so, consider NACD, NSS, and even DIR for the methodology only...just don't drink the coolaid.
#6
Posted 08 May 2005 - 09:55 PM
#7
Posted 08 May 2005 - 10:34 PM
I have no idea why this term got chosen. It doesn't matter to me. Like David, I see this as a polarizing issue. My e-mail is on my website if you wish to talk to me as well.Thanks for the input....just curious why they choose the word "stroke" as the insult of choice.
The basic ideas are on the websites that David refers to. Where things get polarizing is the idea that there is only one way to do things. Some people take it precisely that way and think that they have all of the answers. Others take what they like out of the philosophy and dump the rest and are not "by definition" DIR.
We have threads on this board that discuss the topic quite well and without flaming. Check the other boards out there and you will find that this is not often the case.
Various threads:
Technical Diving
Dive Agency Discussion
Another DIR question
Yet more!
Discussion of drills
Edited by Diverbrian, 08 May 2005 - 10:57 PM.
#8
Posted 09 May 2005 - 12:45 AM
The folks that developed DIR have an extremely well thought out approach to diving. It is well worth understanding. It is also a good idea to avoid the flame wars and stick to the fun side of diving.
#9
Posted 09 May 2005 - 12:59 AM
Well thought out, but... controversial in many circles.The folks that developed DIR have an extremely well thought out approach to diving. It is well worth understanding. It is also a good idea to avoid the flame wars and stick to the fun side of diving.
I agree with sticking to the fun side of diving. Never have so few letters caused so many flame wars on so many message as when those three letters came into common use! LOL
#10
Posted 09 May 2005 - 05:17 AM
The "DIR " way is not the only way but it is a good way for what they do! I think that most of them you'll find finning away in a cave somewhere and the wholeway that they do things is great for that...
It's the "rabid" DIR's that give the rest of them a bad name, and you better leave them alone because they'll beat you to death with that split fin that you are wearing...
Life is a matter of luck, and the odds in favor of success are in no way enhanced by extreme caution... Erich Topp WW II U Boat Commander
#11
Posted 09 May 2005 - 06:18 AM
Some of their points are valid but pick and choose what you want.
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#12
Posted 09 May 2005 - 07:35 AM
Having said that, the DIR philosophy does offer a number of ideas that are very appropropriate for most divers. The only real argument I have with DIR is the attitude many assume- it is the ONLY way to "dive right." Nonsense.
Dr. Bill
#13
Posted 09 May 2005 - 10:36 AM
Life is a matter of luck, and the odds in favor of success are in no way enhanced by extreme caution... Erich Topp WW II U Boat Commander
#14
Posted 09 May 2005 - 11:12 AM
omg you use split fins you are going to die and if you use an air 2 you are taking the whole boat with you!!!!!
Once in a while, it is good to step back, take a breath, and remember to be humble. You'll never know it all - ScubaDadMiami. If you aren't afraid of dying, there is nothing you can't achieve - Lao-tzu. One dog barks at something, the rest bark at him - Chinese Proverb.
#15
Posted 09 May 2005 - 11:16 AM
Life is a matter of luck, and the odds in favor of success are in no way enhanced by extreme caution... Erich Topp WW II U Boat Commander
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