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[Walter]

We dived the jacks at Dania.

[WreckWench]

It's not inefficient when you factor in how much worse it world have been if I'd handed up my fins or if you factor in falling trying to walk with them on or if you factor in the % of times I've fallen off the ladder.

I concur with being worse when handing up fins...yes if trying to walk in them that could be worse however in the situation I was discussing you were NOT walking in them and as for being swept off the ladder...you are fortunate you don't make it a practice to dive in exceptional rough waters.

[Walter]

Actually, I do have a great deal of experience diving in rough waters.

[Diverbrian]

Wreck Wench,

I am another one that seems to find Murphy's Law applies. If I want to go diving, I will have great seas on the entry. It seldom seems to fail that the waves are kicking up when I am getting out.

There is a reason (besides me liking to practice my hovering) that I hang out at ten feet or so and attempt to ascend directly to the ladder if there is no current line. I have had a diver land on me when we were entering the water and the only thing that helped me is that I was already descending and was below the surface, so I didn't take anywhere near the full impact of a fully equipped diver landing on me.

Walter, the next time that I have to use a tag line, I will remember your advice. I only use them (or the ascent line, for that matter) if I have a heavy surface current. Otherwise, I hit the water, descend to about 15 ft. and swim to the down line. Reverse that procedure for ascending.

[Walter]

Strong currents are the only time tag lines are needed. Sometimes the current is so strong you can't swim against it. Other times you can, but if you do, you get a terrible CO2 headache.

[Diverlady]

I guess just telling the boat operator "one to beam up" wouldn't work. Pity.

Diverlady

[Diverbrian]

I guess just telling the boat operator "one to beam up" wouldn't work. Pity.

Diverlady

I have a feeling the boat captain would get a laugh out of it though. He may even tell his DM to make it so!

[Diverlady]

When it's really rough and we're gearing up, someone usually pipes up with "just beam me into my gear at 15ft please!" Wouldn't it be nice if we could actually do that???

Diverlady

[Walter]

Naw. Entries & exits are half the fun.

[DandyDon]

Naw. Entries & exits are half the fun.

Exactly! Challenges are certainly part of my interest, i.e. right gear, transportation to the dive location, and so forth...

[fbp]

I always felt they should get a "Sky Hook" or one of those fishing pulley crane thingies... just hook onto the tank and up ya go scottie...

Alas, that' not to be... so just hang onto the person in front and let them pull you up... (just joking of course, ALWAYS stay clear of everything that can fall)

[peterbj7]

Cranes to lift fully kitted divers out of the water and deposit them on the deck are now commonplace in the UK. A boon if you're tech diving with loads of gear, but good even with a single tank when you've got a thick drysuit with all the weight that implies. These cranes have been introduced to help safety, not laziness, because the time you're most prone to DCI is on getting out of the water.

[Marvel]

I've read about such things, usually in the context of bringing an unconscious (or worse) diver back onto a boat. Terrific idea in the types of cognitions that you mention. But, I'm curious- I thought the time you are most susceptible to DCS is during the ascent from 15 feet to the surface. Why getting out of the water?

[Walter]

Because you are lifting the weight of the gear and your body. Exertion increases the odds of DCS.

[Marvel]

Got it!